Smoother animation ≠ Better animation [4K 60FPS]
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This was entirely edited, and was supposed to be exported, in 48fps, not 50. Funny thing is, Premiere simply doesn't allow custom frame rates in its export window, despite supporting it as a sequence setting. I could have exported the Premiere file into After Effects and added the sequence to the render cue, but I couldn't because AE threw me an error every time I tried. That, combined with the legitimately unbelievable amount of bugs and errors and crashes left me feeling so exhausted and numb that I ultimately decided it was worth sacrificing one 25th of a second's worth of timing here and there. If you catch any editing errors, that'd be why. Oh well!!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
1:27 - Laying the Groundwork
4:32 - Ad break
5:55 - Timing and Easing
9:52 - Smear Frames But Worse™
11:11 - Wrong Tool for the Wrong Job
13:58 - Outro
Animation used (in order of appearance):
Tom and Jerry
Pixel Art (various)
Cat walk (www.reddit.com/r/animation/comments/b0nkqs/cat_walk_cycle_done_for_college/)
Cowboy Bebop
Mulan
Persona 4
300FPS Bowser in cat suit
Spirit (Roughs by James Baxter)
Devilman Crybaby
A Cat in Paris
Wire by Worthikids
Spiderverse
DBZ Fighterz
ParaNorman
Spongebob
Daffodil 3 by Smallbu
Overwatch
Moonlight Fox by Smallbu
JoJo Part 5
XCOM 2
Cafouillage by Tom Law
PokeAwesome
Planet Panic
TMNT 'Don VS Ralph'
Klaus (Lineart by James Baxter)
El Dorado
Naruto
1Samurai Jack Season 5
Dead Leaves
Keep Your Hands off Eizouken
Meet Arnold (Cacani Demo)
'Float' by Pixar
Music used (in order of appearance):
Les Cafes De Paris - Joe E Lee
Apple Kid's Theme - Earthbound
Let the Game Begin! - SiIvaGunner
Noisy Notebook D - Snipperclips
Stage Clear - Wii Play Motion
Good Evening Bossa - Riverworn
Buy Something, Will Ya!? - Earthbound
Stamp Mode - Snipperclips
Apotos (Night) - Sonic Unleashed
Quilty Court - Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn
Just One More Night With You - Thiago
5PM - Animal Crossing New Leaf
Trophy Gallery - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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  • James Baxter
    James Baxter

    Fantastic rant, I love it! And you're absolutely right. I love how you underline the intent of the artist. Those who would seek to replace artists with machine learning and AI clearly don't understand what art is for. Replace stuff that people don't want to do, or can't do. But people get joy (and their livelihood) from creating art, and they want to do it. It's one of the things that make us human. I'm no Luddite, and I love using new tools to create my animation. But when it starts to encroach upon the fulfillment that I get from creating, then no thanks! You might argue that this is just interpolation and chill out. But my response to that is just wait, this is just getting started.

    • 『Mayhem』【V2】
      『Mayhem』【V2】

      Ngl idrc. I'd like to have my animations (if I did) seem better to others. As long as it's good to other people and as long as they enjoy it then thats all it matters lol. I can make it 15 fps and if they made it 60 its alr

    • no
      no

      the man himself

    • Hi hi hi hi hi
      Hi hi hi hi hi

      Yaya

    • Strawberry Milk
      Strawberry Milk

      james baxter!!!

    • BunnoPomPom
      BunnoPomPom

      :0 James Baxter!

  • J_blaster Animations
    J_blaster Animations

    This part is 60fps 14:07

  • leeuwen games
    leeuwen games

    3:51 waiting for a joke that will never come...

  • depression progression
    depression progression

    Even when watching shows that were intended for 60 fps, I still prefer 30 fps far more. 60 fps isn't a new concept. It has been used for soap operas since they were first created. That's why it's called "the soap opera effect".

  • Get it?
    Get it?

    Just taking valid points and repeating them in a mocking tone doesn't make you right. This feels like someone saying cassettes have better sound quality than a flac file on your phone. I get that you prefer the look and it's there for you to watch it but that doesn't make it wrong for people like me to prefer a smoother image. The artists still put in their key frames, the ai simply does inbetweens. Is an inbetween animator insulting the artist cause he makes it look smoother? I don't think so. That changes nothing about the fact that it's still the artists key frames. And the parts that made sense to me like when you said repeated frames cause jenkiness, that's just cause the tech doesn't recognize that at this point. You may not be a religious man like you said in the video, and neither am I but that doesn't stop you from defending your irrational believes and letting them make you shun others opinions over something that is very much a subjective thing. Oh btw the way, those gross weird images that the ai puts in? Those are called smear frames and they are used by actual the professionals that the ai is apparently so disrespectful to. Showing off mistakes of a still developing program that was used by a private person for entertainment doesn't change that fact.

  • Максим Шевцов-18
    Максим Шевцов-18

    1080p50 fps

  • Tiki Tophatter
    Tiki Tophatter

    “5 million views”

  • Alberto Camargo
    Alberto Camargo

    Well, this is how translators (localizators, actually) feel when someone says "just google translate it man". Yeah, fuck you too.

  • C Cont
    C Cont

    I mean, i don’t think it’s supposed to be perfect, i think it’s just supposed to be a cool experiment

  • TresHermanos
    TresHermanos

    You are right about it. Its just that people love smoothness. In betweeners are the best for this not ai

  • Bellisald
    Bellisald

    When this "trend" started I remember seeing a 60fps version Mystery Skulls: The Future and, could you imagine, it was an absolute out-of-sync disaster! I guess it must have been removed 'cause I can't find it anymore. Oh, I wonder why???

  • Francesco Favro
    Francesco Favro

    this is making me feel bad that i mostly couldn't tell the difference, before it was pointed out to me, or put in slow-mo. mind you, not even in games. i trust when someone says that 60fps is best for gaming, but i really can't tell the difference unless i play the sequences back to back a few times. ps. fuck that jumpscare at the end

  • IrritationNation
    IrritationNation

    60fps feels like everything is made out of jelly

  • Generic Title
    Generic Title

    idc i just think it looks better :)

  • Carter Hayes
    Carter Hayes

    I agree with everything in this video, 60fps animation is cursed. The AI part (11:18) is wrong though. AI is literally designed to train itself and yes, in the beginning, it needs help learning how to do better, after that it basically trains itself to be/look better. This isn't a defense for AI 60fps animation, it's just a correction.

  • Fabio Chiaro
    Fabio Chiaro

    Therapyst: human Noodle doesn't exists it can't hurt you Human noodle:4:08

  • Nicolas Nicodemo
    Nicolas Nicodemo

    the only time i mess with frame rates is when STUPID MARIO CAT EMULATOR KEEPS ENDER PEARLING HALF AY ACROS THE FRICKING MAP AND END UP LOSING BECAUSE I GO FROM BEGGING OF GAME FRAME WAIT 2 HOURS END OF GAME FRAME AND I LOST CUS MY FRAME WAS STUCK ITS THAT BAD THE FRAME RATE THAT IT WENT TO -78 FRAMES, IT HAS A DISPLAY OF FRAMES LIKE THIS fps: -78

  • JMotion
    JMotion

    Noodle: "5 million views.... why bother" Animators and animation enthusiasts on youtube: **uno reverse card**

  • Mikel Basch
    Mikel Basch

    Okay it looks pretty trash :P Some people do NOT have any taste wse...

  • imakhlaq
    imakhlaq

    Ok this guy is pissed and he is not letting it go this time

  • Redne Inacio
    Redne Inacio

    You became the 5 million views guy

  • Sol T
    Sol T

    That's the smoothest transition to a sponsorship ever

  • MayaBombANation
    MayaBombANation

    I’m so glad that as a non-animator I basically had this exact take (though obviously less learned and informed ) That Mulan 60fps shit looked like hot garbage to me immediately, and to their credit I think most of twitter replies on it were saying the same. It’s just gamers and children on youtube that like this

  • Bennistro
    Bennistro

    I get your point but sadly nobody who isn't an animator is going to care. Thats always the problem of artistical integrity vs. shit that people just think looks cool

  • DyscoT
    DyscoT

    complains about 5 million views then gets 5 million views thats good planning clearly

  • damandbass
    damandbass

    Why should the music world be the only ones to suffer artistic tampering? (loudness wars, autotune, Dolby NR, Milli Vanilli) Have fun animators.

  • Ginkoman2
    Ginkoman2

    on the other hand there is no reason for film to be 24fps. especially action movies.

  • Skoop
    Skoop

    well he got 5 million views

  • NorthRust
    NorthRust

    You scared the living hell out of me, daaamn, I think I shit my inner mind pants

  • GRIMES
    GRIMES

    You’re right.

  • yxkalle
    yxkalle

    I watched this interpolated to 480fps.

  • Incel Magnet
    Incel Magnet

    I don't get any of this but I agree

  • ilovehotdogs125790
    ilovehotdogs125790

    um but 240hz is superior

  • Raphaeloking
    Raphaeloking

    I mean, tbh yes, I'm a gamer, BUT the FPS always depends on what the animation style is actually showing the viewer. Is it a game, with high graphics (let's say RTX), then yes the more FPS the better HOWEVER, is it a cartoony animation, let's say here mulan or el dorado it's actually better to keep it the way it is. Not only because the animators get payed to draw every single frame but because it also fits the style of what the viewer i looking at and (i think that's only me) it gives that nostalgic vibe to it. Or, in other words. Imagine low FPS on a high graphic game. That would be the same as a low FPS animation with high FPS, yes it looks shit. Now, if i may said something that triggers some animator, I never animated anything in my whole life, so these are my thoughts on animators/animations So long story short, it depends on the style with what the animation is going at cartoon/game Yes, i just nearly copied all that he said.

  • ZKiwi
    ZKiwi

    my brokeass using AE instead of an actual animation program:

  • Argo
    Argo

    I love when you called out the gamers, specifically, might I add, PC gamers. Who obsess over fps and settings, Fov and view models but they're still bad(I'm a pc gamer)

  • MSSoulBlader
    MSSoulBlader

    Bro, I am getting major sequelitis vibes from this video!

  • Sternens Lapis
    Sternens Lapis

    As both an animator and AI enthusiast I was like ‘ah neat they made interpolation but again and via AI... anyways’ Sure it’s great to see it’s possible but it’s not necessary. More is not always more better.

  • Waltzing Worm
    Waltzing Worm

    Another one of those weird ass trends that completely missed me.

  • RemU
    RemU

    Fernanda Dias's animation for Save me (Bruno Martini, Avian Grays, TRIXL ft. Mayra) is a good example of having flow is worth more than having more frames. You can notice the missing frames between the character motions but since it has a good flow, your brain still gets the information needed to understand what is happening.

  • Sia Yen Chia
    Sia Yen Chia

    Perhaps people like it because it makes them feel high.

  • MrAmad3us
    MrAmad3us

    Sad thing is AI will (probably) eventually get the nuance and do it perfectly

  • Marwick
    Marwick

    I'm not an animator, but I am an artist. If I were to spent time and effort on an illustration, only to have someone say they made it better by uploading it into a program and pushing a button; I'd be furious. It's like they took a brand new mirror, and tried to use shoe polish to make it more reflective.

  • enzo varin
    enzo varin

    click watched later and had this vid hover my feed for a couple weeks... and damn that was an insta sub. like the humour, animation and subject hope to see you hit a million soon

  • Tom
    Tom

    Idc i just think it looks better :)

  • Glue seller and smeller
    Glue seller and smeller

    New glue Anti interpolation glue

  • Furz
    Furz

    Your indent as an artist doesnt matter a single bit the market will decide what it likes best

  • Recreational Chemicals
    Recreational Chemicals

    4:51 bruh just pirate the book

  • Eater of Essence
    Eater of Essence

    Wait. YOU are the one who made that viral video???

  • Radiant Shadow
    Radiant Shadow

    10:20 can I just say this is probably one of the best animated movies ever? The music, the animation, the story, it's all just fun and great.

  • Deklan
    Deklan

    that robot at the end fucking scared me

  • jewish hoser
    jewish hoser

    No one else gonna talk about that beautiful snipper clips music?

  • PrinceTexasLoaf
    PrinceTexasLoaf

    Dude you totally changed my mind on this subject, thank you.

  • Roizu
    Roizu

    Now *you're* the one with 5 million views 😌

  • meme spy meme spy
    meme spy meme spy

    "who the fuck cares about framerates,it's GAMERS,AGAIN." i can't handle 50 fps SOBS

  • J Freako
    J Freako

    Did you put the video quality at 50fps outta spite? Cause if so, I think you just became my new favorite channel :)

  • mad brad
    mad brad

    That's the second smoothest segways into an ad I've ever seen

  • RiboFlavin64
    RiboFlavin64

    I feel like this goes for basically any form of art, professionals find the beauty and the masses are just like haha funny joke. Also are you a skater? Lets see some tricks bruv

  • Di Atas Gudang
    Di Atas Gudang

    I just died. You know the timestamp

  • Gabriel Almeida Ramos
    Gabriel Almeida Ramos

    h.

  • Moons Out Goons Out
    Moons Out Goons Out

    Its because people are dumbasses and they just see 60fps in the title and make a soy wojak face. These are people who literally can't stomach playing video games in any less than 60 fps.

  • empty soul
    empty soul

    i dont care, its just looks better like in real life

  • Danielle Reis
    Danielle Reis

    The higher frame rate makes everything feel like it's "swimming" and gives me motion sickness. I don't even like video games with higher frame rates. It's just so overused.

  • ToonFace
    ToonFace

    This video: 5 million views We did it bois

  • Bernard Buttfart
    Bernard Buttfart

    Damn, MY phone is so old and messed up. Just buy a new one. Your card was declined. "MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY GETTING A JOB."

  • Sternosaur
    Sternosaur

    Here I was thinking how your animation and presentation style reminded me of Egoraptor and then you show one of his animations lol

  • Shasta Kitty
    Shasta Kitty

    I thought all the examples of the "terrible smooth" animation looked way better .-. ...

  • Zephyn M
    Zephyn M

    I'm a gamer. But I also appreciate watching and/or playing media in its intended state. But as a general user who just wants to game, I don't exactly always know the intended frame rate for a game. Unless it's Resident Evil 4 (PC) where I realized the game looks and runs better in its 30 FPS mode because the 60 FPS mode is oddly smooth but also has issues with timing. Timing issues most notable during QTEs. I believe I noticed a similar situation with Nioh 2 where the game seems to look and run better at 60 FPS and fewer issues running in 30 while being harder to play at 120. Anyway, I like your video. It helped me understand why some things seemed a bit off with certain games I played and why lower frame rates made the games better off. Though I've only found myself caring about frame rate more with competitive games like Apex since they're made with high frame rates in mind. Edit: You also explained the weird artifacts I've noticed in some of my games and I appreciate it.

  • star sparks
    star sparks

    This is actually one of the reasons I love some of the older 90s anime. Like yes colours and speed and things are amazing now and some anime are just *chef's kiss* but the stylised beauty of the 90s is also SO GOOD. The fight sequences often have way more impact. The play of light and colour in blockier shading can literally give you chills at times. It's just amazing and higher quality, more realistic stuff just doesn't have that effect.

  • Techno Saiyan
    Techno Saiyan

    The funny thing is that he did get 5 million views

  • Bodarium
    Bodarium

    Thank you for this

  • TheBaconChannel
    TheBaconChannel

    if it ain't broke don't """"""fix"""""" it

  • Luke Lankster
    Luke Lankster

    You bastard, you turned my Google on

  • Junior
    Junior

    I didn’t know what he was talking abt half the time but it was satisfying to watch

  • Mike Charecky
    Mike Charecky

    God that sponsor transition was amazing

  • Ethan Parks
    Ethan Parks

    this is 50fps?

  • Aiden Aidenen
    Aiden Aidenen

    Huh, weird. I agree with you, and yet I think I hate you more than most of the people than I know that exist.

    • Flappo the Silent Scientist
      Flappo the Silent Scientist

      You hate Noodle more than Hitler?

  • sourcegear420
    sourcegear420

    hey look at that mr cartoon man you got 5m views like that dumb mulan video

  • Advspringbonnie
    Advspringbonnie

    Ok but Mulan in 60 FPS looks pretty decent most of the time. I feel like the creator wasn't trying to steal the work, but just make a showcase. Other than that though I completely understand this video.

  • Jason Lihani
    Jason Lihani

    "Shit-ass" gets my sub all, every day. God I miss when UZmatch was like this. Aka good.

  • Ya boyy BenocxX
    Ya boyy BenocxX

    For all the developers out there arguing for the AI's side. Imagine seeing an AI write code fro you, but in Scratch or in block-based programming.... You get my point.

  • Halima Taylor
    Halima Taylor

    dose anybody know what animating/drawing program he's uses ? (:

  • Elijah Ducote
    Elijah Ducote

    We're In The Future?

  • The Almighty Noob
    The Almighty Noob

    Reject 60 fps Return to good animation

  • David Howle
    David Howle

    not a steak

  • Liam B
    Liam B

    gets 5 million views

  • Torin Benson
    Torin Benson

    Noodle: "Five million views!" Video: Now has over five million views bruh :) Hi

  • Leo
    Leo

    Just pause at the intro cat scene and count how many blurry parts are there

  • Diego Gamer Lol
    Diego Gamer Lol

    Wow 5 M views :v

  • Mr.Butter-X
    Mr.Butter-X

    imagine someone putting into the spider verse into the AI

  • cakeyrey
    cakeyrey

    I literally jumped at the stupid robot appearing at the end of the video... ...when I just subscribed

  • Advspringbonnie
    Advspringbonnie

    I want to get Honey after that smooth af sponsorship like WOW.

  • Dietmilk420
    Dietmilk420

    i feel like what needs to happen for ai interpolation to actually look good is having it trained on animation, and specifically the style of animation it is expected to be used upon. I think fan made "enhancements" are a matter of personal taste, and right now the a.i. used for them is in very early stages of its devolopment for use with animation.

  • Breakerone92
    Breakerone92

    Its like if a fight scene has a 10 frame punch it should be a 1-2-4-5-10 animated thing instead of 12345678910 because it has little to no weight to it. I don't know the actual frame counts for it just saying that as an example

  • Eq Beatz
    Eq Beatz

    I don't think it's gamers but rather people delving into AI trying to push the technical feat of pushing animation. personally as a person who loves arts and gaming i only care for High FPS in games that are all about user experience that has involves high action. I usually like to think high frame anything is reserved for action and sports. a machine will ultimately never (or would want to) be put in-between the final touches on what the artist is trying to achieve with their work. I understand it's a rant, but I don't think it's specifically "gamers". art will never replace the innovation or birthing of new ideas since they are only limited to what they are programmed to do, like you said "gets better over time" is far from what AI really is.

  • battousaicrescent
    battousaicrescent

    FINALLY SOMEONE IS AS FRUSTRATED AS I AM ABOUT IT!

  • Pyromancy
    Pyromancy

    Gamers are fucking ruining everything, they ruin games and they are mad, they ruined the internet and youtube, now they are gonna stink up everything. also no robots can't replace us cause humans need the human touch still other wise the damn thing falls apart but i love having tech non the less.

  • Big Guy
    Big Guy

    10:41 is that Redline I see?

  • MayDayy
    MayDayy

    almost 5 million views

  • Hi hi hi hi hi
    Hi hi hi hi hi

    Owoao